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[HASHEMI] At the end of the day as we're talking about this
question of political violence and instability,
there's no getting away from the fact that you know
there's reasons why democracies are
considered to be much more peaceful, stable,
political entities.
Of course, you know, they're much more difficult
because you have to deal with them in complicated ways,
because you have to
deal with the voice of people,
and the people have different voices
and so it's easier to deal with a despot,
but at the end of the day,
if we're concerned about and if we're angry
about the political instability
and the violence,
well this violence is being produced precisely
because of the absence of democracy and good governance.
You know, it's not a coincidence that in Iraq and Syria,
the two places where ISIS has emerged
and created it's so-called Islamic state,
those are the two countries of the world
that have been most adversely affected
by the legacy of political despotism
and political authoritarianism,
you know.
We're not seeing this happening in Indonesia,
or Malaysia, or in other parts.
We're seeing it in the two countries that have been
most adversely affected by the legacy of political
authoritarianism, and also by the
consequences of war and state breakdown
and state collapse,
so there's lessons here for those
who want to learn them.